Tuesday, November 17, 2009

Why more Trees, it makes no sense?

Okay, once again, a serious question for a gw skeptic.





Why would you plant more trees?


Trees are seasonal, ie their leaves are only around for a short period of time. And for those of you that road the short bus to school, the leaves are what recycles co2 not the trunk or limbs.


Would it not make more sense to plant vine like plants such as kudzu or replace acers of forrest with grass?


You could make an statement about evergreens, however, a blade of grass is much thicker, so I doubt an evergreen needle is going to produce as much oxygen as a blade of grass.


Grass is like the floor in your house or better yet in a store. You don't pay any attention to it, but no matter what happens to the isles (shelves) it's always there and covers every inch, instead of a few random spots.

Why more Trees, it makes no sense?
Just because they are pretty!
Reply:You still need trees to provide oxygen for the planet. Take away the trees and you take away the major contributor of our planet's oxygen makers.
Reply:Kudzu kills the plants it grows on. It was imported into parts of the south as erosion control and it proved to be an out of control menace. While it is pretty during the spring and summer, it withers and dies quickly in cold weather.








"Road" the short bus? Speaking from experience?
Reply:Some fully verified statistics for all sides of conservation,


preservation, blessed lands, and farmers are here.


1 million trees such as orchards requires in chemistry over


3000 vehicles no matter if it is harvested and packaged or rots.


There are 5 attended orchards on this world. Orchards is the


number one identifier of network of planets, very similar. Before


orchards at 80% of astronomy within enterprise show that this is


relative to berries the 30% buffer of civilizations versus mongrol


histories. If two thirds of the world lives in military strictness the


incidence of drownings in breeding leaders eventually shows


losses in production people. Histories actual events are not


true without verification like acceptance by the animal kingdom.


Tree planting by reserves is 90% by android type machinery.


The 10% is the control item to keep information on what is out


there and highly sensitive to losses from long term radio mix ups.


That is the point of planting is important, it is a priority security.


76% of orchard foods is eaten, and 78% of the workload of


weather, and planet signal is from limited domesticated livestocks living without any budgets or input. Oxygen cover of


this planet is through for well over 4000 years, the cycle was


forced through in 1960s. New oxygen form in space area is now


up by 500%. People become shorter by 30% in long range use


of automobiles, snomobiles, jeeps, and trams. Planning husbandry is the key to anything making sense.
Reply:simplest things almost the best thing any thing found in great amount give the opposite result so trees must found %26amp; must sow to get our o2 but it is better to be in small amount the new research found that plants make respiration in day 3-5 in night
Reply:Rode, not road. That's a pretty funny spelling error when you are making a derogatory comment about people riding the short bus to school.





Rain Forests are not limited by season, they are green year-round.


In addition to the Northern and Southern Hemispheres having opposite seasonal schedules. It's summer here now and winter below the equator.


Grass also dies off in the winter. I'm sure your neighbor and the city would have something to say if you didn't mow your lawn.
Reply:You're correct that it's not a simple deal of just planting trees. It requires careful thought and analysis.





Tropical forests are more effective at removing CO2, because they do grow year round. So fighting tropical deforestation is more important than planting trees in temperate climates.





Grass just doesn't make very good use of vertical space. Kudzu has bad side effects because it tends to take over everything uncontrollably.





In temperate climates, being clever about what trees you plant can make them more effective.





http://seedmagazine.com/news/2006/10/fin...





And, at their extreme range away from the Equator (where evergreens grow, because they need to be very efficient), planting trees may be counterproductive, Their very slow growth (which is what removes CO2) does not overcome the fact that they're dark and turn sunlight into heat. Even growing year round doesn't make up for limited sunlight and photosynthesis.





Trees can make sense, but only if done correctly. People are doing a lot of research to find out what works best. It's not just simply "plant trees".
Reply:The way I see it is two fold...





1. The bigger the plant, i.e. a tree, the more co2 consumption. Also the age of the plant determines the rate of consumption. A young plant/tree will consume more co2 as it is growing/maturing.


2. More trees because it is a renewable resource. The professional logging industry is planting 5 trees for every 1 they cut down. In certain states in the south the forest are growing at a faster rate then can be harvested...
Reply:Ok first of all most of the trees in the world are not deciduous. therefor they continue to exchange CO2 for O2 year around. now you must look at how much Co2 and O2 is exchanged in relationship to how much other nutrients are used and other benefits and an average tree provides far more benefit than grass/vines etc. example of this is O2 and Co2 exchange is far more efficient than most plants, they return more nutrients to the soil than most other plants, they maintain soil integrity (hold soil together), they provide micro- climates for lots of other plants to grow that otherwise would not be able to excise at that location not to mention habitats for animal. now consumer product benefits are simple to see the benefits of trees over grass
Reply:You must in a city. Why do I say this./ You have little knowledge of plants. Kudzu is just like trees in the fall. The leaves fall off and you have this dead vine. There are evergreen trees that do not drop any leaves but do slow down there use of co2 in the winter. If you have ever walked in to the woods on a hot day you can free the cool air flowing out of the trees and there is no grass on the floor of the woods.
Reply:Also, remember rain forest trees never die back. There is only one season in the rain forest.
Reply:And what about all the gas it takes to cut a big lawn area of those 'blades of grass'???????
Reply:Trees are a part of a fragile ecosystem which takes decades or centuries in case of Redwoods, Sequoias, etc to build back.





We shouldn't be cutting trees(Preventive Maintenance) at the first place, rather we are doing to protect the earth by planting trees(Breakdown Maintenance). An individual tree in the Evergreen forests, Redwood forests have their own ecosystem within the ecosystem of the forest. Now biologists and ecologists have discovered so many new species of birds above the canopy of redwoods, which serve as a part of self-sustaining ecosystem.





Now, to answer your question why do we plant more trees. These are the following reasons:





1) To prevent soil erosion which is happening as Man's egocentric greed to have more land


2) To Contain more ground water, as it takes more time for rain water from the leaf canopy to trickle down to the floor, as the floor absorbs it.


3) CO2 absorption.


4) Reduce Dust and smog(they act like natural air filters)


5) To preserve the home for the inhabitants of the tree. -----------


If a tree is felled which has birds, bats and Owls (which ate the rats which infest the fields, and houses), Bees (which polinate the nearby flowers for their survival) and other animals beneficial to the ecosystem, where do they go??








It is easy to compare analogies sitting in the desk of a house or in an office. How much have we as humans have learned a tree can contribute by observing it daily? If you know CO2 rises up, so a blade of grass all together can only convert few amounts available closer to the land, But the tree leaves are higher and cover a larger area to absorb CO2.


We stop to exercise, or drink or do good things to keep ourselves fit and healthy. Has ever a tree complained to you from doing a good thing?





Hope this helps. Let us preserve the world for the future generations(Let this be a convincing reason).
Reply:You would plant more trees because even if they are seasonal you can still reduce the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and increase clean oxygen. Or you could plant an evergreen that does photosynthesis all year. Or if you plant more trees all over the world then they will be producing all year because the seasons vary in the different hemispheres.
Reply:One tree provides enough air for a family of four for one year. (Even when dormant, the tree, when it has leaves on it, does a lot of CO2 removal).





Now, when grass gets dry, it goes brown, thus, no CO2 exchange can occur. Leaves dont go brown until in the fall, when they fall off, thus continually exchange CO2 for oxygen.





Pines are great, but, too great of a fire hazard! You get a forest of pine ablaze and its almost impossible to put out, versus a forest of deciduous trees.





Also, trees abate wind control, and in the planes area you dont have so many trees, and that is probably why you have so many tornadoes! Nothing to stop the swirling on the ground.





I wish you well...





Jesse
Reply:When a tree has leaves on its branches, there is ALOT more surface area than a patch of grass would have in its place. As for evergreens, the same applies, there are more needles on an evergreen than there would be in a patch of grass replacing it.
Reply:There are several reasons to plant trees. Trees don't only offer co2 absorption %26amp; oxygen production. They offer shade, which keeps the earth cooler %26amp; if you build your house under them your utility bills will be lower. Also, the deep rooting system of trees helps to prevent soil erosion.





Aesthetically speaking, they're much more enjoyable to look at, especially in the fall, than boring old grass!
Reply:Greetings;


You might want to check out your nearest conservation departments brochures on tree planting. I didn't ride the short bus to school, sorry, but I live in the country and will provide you with some knowledge I have. Different types of trees give off oxygen not only thru their leaves during the summer but also thru the winter time as well. Take a Xmas tree or some call cedar tree, fur tree, or others. They give off oxygen year round. Tree's not only provide oxygen but a home to many birds and other types of animals. Squirrels, and birds use tree's as a refuge from other predators, nesting, and living in them all year. Other animals feed off of the tree leaves such as deer, bunnies, squirrels, etc. Some trees produce food (berries) that humans and animals can both eat.


And as for grass, it depends on where you live. Some types of grass thrive no matter where you plant them or if they are a native to the area and are adapted to the environment, they require minimum upkeep. If you sow your grass, or pod it like most new homes have installed after the construction of the home, it requires maintenance as well. Just look at nature as I do. If nature needs a drink, water it. If you need a drink, get a glass and quench your thirst.


Please check out the Missouri Department of Conservation online and you will find many more answers to your questions about trees, oxygen and other plants that help in the oxygen cycle. If we don't have trees and plants, we don't breathe the oxygen they give off. Imagine breathing nothing but carbon dioxide. We wouldn't live very long.
Reply:I have a personal fetish for trees. I don't even mind bringing one into my house about once a year. But if you really want to go to vines may I suggest poison ivy or oak? They are really wonderful and can grow much higher than most others. Grass is recycled through herding critters who in turn return it to the air as methane, another pollutant. If everyone turned to vegetarianism it might help global warming a little.
Reply:Trees also provide shade to park your car under on hot days.
Reply:Sometimes folks think they know better than nature. Trees make perfect sense where they naturally occur. Otherwise, you are looking at an energy intensive endeavor. Grasses, in general, makes much more sense in certain environments. It's the way nature has been doing it for millions of years.





Those that want to make the argument for carbon sequestering in wood: this is only true for short-term timescales. Eventually, all the carbon is released when the tree dies. The net long-term effect is ZERO.





Unless you look into responsible forestry - harvesting wood for human use, treatment to resist decay.
Reply:there are trees as old as the country you live in. some 300 years old what do you mean SEASONAL?





Grass needs more water than an evergreen and the evergreen grows in soil grass cant anyway . . apart from that it provides habitat.





but on the other hand deciduous trees do that too and are more efficient air filters that is true. and we have enough evergreens. we need oak ,elm , maple...mmmm maple rrrrrgghh





So exactly what have you done about this your own self?
Reply:Trees act as a canopy that protects the earth and they absorb way more water than a blade of grass. They probably both stop erosion. Have you ever seen a shade blade of grass? Try hiding from the sun under a blade of grass. I'll take a shade tree over grass any day. I hate mowing the lawn. Mowing causes more destructive gasses.
Reply:A tree also can be seen as 'a tube of water towering into the sky'... Yes, some trees shed their leaves, but in the tropics, those that do (like the Pacific Almond) quickly start growing new leaves, almost the same day they shed..


Just use your own imagination and common sense. Go to a part of the city where there are no trees and stand around for a day, then go to a part of the city where there are trees and stand around for a day. Which day was more pleasant?
Reply:Trees are the lungs to our planet, Trees are the home for hundreds of thousands of species of animals birds and insects, how many live in/on grass. Trees absorb vast amounts of water that hold hillsides and land in place, you don't think so ??? well look at Bangladesh, the worst flooding in the regions history came about after logging, and the loss of life was greater than the Tsunami a couple of years ago. We need more trees if we want to continue using wood as a medium for all that we do now. Plus there is medicinal benefits to had from these fantastic entities. And another thing TREES are beautiful, no two are the same.
Reply:Eh? What are you talking about? It is nothing to do with oxygen production. It is all to do with carbon sequestering. That is locking up the carbon from the atmosphere in carbon based products. Such as WOOD. Which is what trees are generally made of even in the winter. Unlike a blade of grass, which returns to the soil, decomposes and releases carbon dioxide. Which is the green house gas we are talking about. So this is why we say plant more trees. OK? Lawns require far more energy in terms of carbon based fuels and fertilizers than they could possibly consume. OK?





3DM come on boy, trees live for hundreds of years e.g. Oak. They do not give up their carbon. Only if you burn them.


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